S10E6: Carefully Worded

Episode 6

Feb 18, 2023

Cal and Corey sit down with Debra Persinger, executive director of FSMTB to talk education, (de)regulation, and what it takes to keep both consumers and massage therapists safe.

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EPISODE 6

Cal and Corey sit down with Debra Persinger, executive director of FSMTB to talk education, (de)regulation, and what it takes to keep both consumers and massage therapists safe.


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About Our Guest:

Debra Persinger, PhD, CAE 

Executive Director, Federation of State Massage Therapy Boards (FSMTB) 

Debra brings a rare combination of management experience, examination expertise, and national and state legislative know-how to the FSMTB where she is the executive director.

Debra impacts the mission of FSMTB by valuing and supporting people through fostering a culture of caring and advocating for public protection and being courageous in fighting fraud and human trafficking.

She is gratefully aware that all of the change for good is a result of team work with a constant supply of many brilliant, resilient, open-minded, and conscientious colleagues.

Debra is also a former university lecturer and has authored several publications.